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- Babyproofing Ideas
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- Collection maintained by: Sandra Smith, sandra@cs.toronto.edu
- Last updated: September 1, 1994
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- (Originally compiled by: Judith Boxer, huxley!judy@uunet.UU.NET)
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- Andy Lowry is maintaining an Auto Safety FAQ, which might be of interest
- to readers of this babyproofing FAQ. His email address is lowry@watson.ibm.com.
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-
- From: Mark Vigder, Systems and Computer Engineering, Carleton University
- vigder@sce.carleton.ca
-
- A good suggestion that was on the network a while ago (particularly if
- you have a gas range): take the knobs off and keep them up high. There
- was a horrible case in Winnipeg about a year ago where a
- two or three year old who was supposed to be napping woke up, went
- into the kitchen, pushed a chair to the stove, climbed up, and turned
- on the element. His rubber running shoes melted and stuck to the
- element; he couldn't get off.
-
- At our cottage we also have ceiling fans near bunk beds and base board
- heaters with curtains hanging on them. I take the knobs off these as
- well so that little hands cannot turn them on.
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Elizabeth Zaenger, University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
- liz@uunet.UUCP@zip.eecs.umich.edu.UUCP
-
- When I took Monica for her 9(?) month check up, the nurse asked about
- baby proofing. I told her we had installed the child proof latches,
- and she suggested we still take all *poisons* out of the lower cupboards
- and put them completely out of reach for Monica. She mentioned that
- automatic dishwasher detergent is often made with lye, and other
- cleaners are very poisonious as well (anything with ammonia, etc.).
- Regular dishwashing liquid is not poisonous (according to her).
-
- Well, I did it as soon as I got home. All the junk we had under
- the sink is now in one of our stupid little high cupboards that
- isnt really very useful, since it is so hard to reach. We keep the
- dishwasher detergent at the front, and lesser used stuff is at the
- back, where I need a chair to reach it (my husband is 6'2", and
- can reach it all 8^( Its a bit more inconvenient, but I have heard
- *way too many* stories about toddlers defeating the "child-proof" latches!
-
- Also, when I go to other people's houses, and notice things that could be
- dangerous. Toddler-less homes are notorious for under the sink bad things,
- and require dilligent serveillance on my part, but I have also noticed some
- stuff at homes *with* toddlers (actually, a friends cottage, where they
- kept the aspirin and stuff like that in a drawer in the bathroom sink
- cabinet! I mentioned that one to them, cause we are pretty good friends,
- but you cant always do that tactfully!).
-
- P.S. One suggestion I have heard is to get down on the floor at baby level,
- and look around for stuff that could be hazardous. I did that, and ended
- up tying lamp cords off the floor--something I hadnt thought of from
- 5'4" !
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Carolyn
- jimpt@uunet.UUCP@tektronix.TEK.COM.UUCP@tekig6.PEN.TEK.COM.UUCP
-
- Sunset has a book called "Making Your Home Child Safe" that
- I found to be quite helpful. It covers a lot of details
- inside and out.
-
- For cabinet latches, we used 2 different kinds. One has a sharp point
- and horizontal ridges on the inside of the point where it catches on the
- cupboard door. It is GREAT. The other kind has a slightly rounded point
- (on the part that attaches to the door) and is smooth. This kind is
- junk. Sorry I don't remember the brand names.
-
- For drawers, we used Gerber latches on the 1st child. They were fine
- until she was about 18 months, then she figured them out. We added a
- second latch to each drawer and it took her 2 days to realize she
- just needed to open both of them at once. We gave up on drawers with
- #2.
-
- ----------------------------------------------------
-
- >For brands: the "one with the sharp point and horizontal ridges on the inside
- >of the point where it catches on the cupboard door" (I haven't figured out
- >which brand this is yet), and the Gerber single piece units (from Perfectly
- >Safe).
-
- I was in a store today, so looked at the cupboard latches. The
- Kinderguard ones qualify as the "one with the sharp point and horizontal
- ridges on the inside of the poin" We had purchased them at first and
- later needed to add more. I grabbed some that looked similiar, but the
- point wasn't aointed and didn't have the ridges. A good tug easily
- defeated the second kind and the kids were soon opening the doors with
- the bad latches faster than we were.
-
- I don't know if it was mentioned, but if you have stair railing along
- an upstairs hallway or deck railing that has the balisters more than
- 3 or 4 inches apart, you need to look into netting of some sort to keep
- children from falling through the railing.
-
- ******************************************************************************
-
- From: Dave Johnsen, TECHbooks of Beaverton Oregon - Public Access Unix
- davej@techbook.COM ...!{tektronix!nosun,uunet}techbook!davej
-
- A recent example tells me it will have to be combination locks. Two days ago
- Jilly unlocked the padlock on the toolbox in the garage. She had seen Daddy
- do it once. And the key was up on a shelf she had to get a chair to get. When
- I asked her why she did that (Now here is where the child induced brain damage
- is apparent. I asked a two year old why she did something.) she said "My
- Hammer!" and then proceeded to go over and try to pound a nail into the wall.
- She had a picture she had made and wanted to hang.
-
- - To finish the story, I distracted her, and then framed the picture (more of
- a scribble, actually). Her and I then hung it in her room. I will keep it for
- my office later. And I got a combination lock. :)
-
- ----------------------------------------------------
-
- The only suggestion I can really make is that nothing is baby-proof. It is
- rather like watches that aren't water proof, they're water resistant. You
- can make a house baby proof I suppose, but you can only make it toddler-
- resistant. :) Our daughter, at 15 months then, brought me handfulls of
- electric outlet covers. I kept putting them back while she wasn't watching,
- she kept bringing them to me. She is two tommorrow, and lately has been
- bringing me stuff from "protected" areas. So far the only thing I have been
- able to protect completely has been the shop which is behind a combination
- lock.
-
- ******************************************************************************
-
- From: Glen Ecklund, Department of Computer Sciences, University of Wisconsin
- glen@cs.wisc.edu
-
- Determine whether there are any rooms they can lock themselves into.
- Ethan likes to lock himself in the bathroom. Fortunately, I was at my
- desk when my wife called. She remembered that there was a gizmo to open
- the bathroom door, but she didn't remember where it was. Also, fortunately
- the toilet lid was locked. We started locking it as soon as he opened it
- the first time. Now he plays with the lock, but he doesn't expect to
- be able to open the lid, even when someone forgets to lock it.
-
- Now I try to make sure that any sitter knows how to unlock the door. We
- keep it shut normally. And when he stays at someone else's house I mention
- the potential problem.
-
- Our other bathroom door has a lock which we hadn't even noticed, since we
- don't use it. There is no easy way to open it from the outside, so I'm
- glad he didn't find it first. I disabled it by putting a screw partway
- into the hole in the door jamb, so the deadbolt hits the screw and
- cannot latch. The doorknob latch is separate, and unaffected.
-
- A small tragedy happened Saturday when Ethan was with the sitter at a
- conference at a hotel. He locked himself into the room, and locked the
- sitter and another child out. She left him there and went down to them main
- desk for help. I think he has recovered by now, but he certainly had
- some extra crying to do for a while.
-
- ----------------------------------------------------
-
- I keep thinking of new things. Watch out for wastebaskets! Ours is locked
- away under the sink, but Ethan still managed to transfer a couple of spoons
- from the dishwasher to it, which was lucky to notice while taking out
- the trash. And Madeleine's keys are long gone. But we still have the
- remote controls. :-)
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Laura Floom, Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
- lauraf@notavax.JPL.NASA.GOV
-
- A real important thing to remember is to never let your child
- see how you open a baby proofed item! Make sure your body shields
- the action. It is much easier for a child to figure them out of the
- see you do it. Ideally you never even want your child to realize
- there is somehing there.
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Judy Drake, Tektronix, Inc., Redmond, OR.
- judyd@pendragon.CNA.TEK.COM
-
- Besides the usual cabinet latches and electrical outlet covers,
- removing cleaning stuff and medicines, etc., if you have a dog,
- be sure you store the dog food where the baby can't get
- into it, and don`t leave the dog's food out on the floor. Some
- kinds of kibbles are perfect choking size.
-
- Also, if you have blinds, make sure you have hooks next to the
- windows or something you have hang the strings up on when the
- blinds are open. The strings can hang down far enough for a kid
- to get tangled up in.
-
- Dishwasher detergent is poisonous, so if you keep it under your
- sink like we used to, you might want to move it to a higher location.
- A lot of house plants are poisonous, but I'm not sure which ones.
-
- You can put doorknob covers on any doors that the baby can lock
- himself into or out of, so he can't open the door in the first place.
-
- I've read that toddlers can drown in 5-gallon buckets by falling
- in head first then not being able to get out. (Our solution to
- this is to never wash the car.)
-
- Some things in our house we never babyproofed, because I wanted
- our kid to learn about stuff. For example, he always has had
- access to toilets and our stereo and the stairs, without any
- problem. I suppose if he had ever shown more interest in the
- toilets, I would have put locks on the lids. However, by the time
- he was big enough to lift the lid, he wasn't interested in the
- toilets (aside from throwing in the occasional shoe to see Mom's
- reaction).
-
- Sometimes you never know what might pose a hazard to a little baby.
- I read not long ago about an aquarium that leaked into a baby's crib
- and the baby drowned because the water puddled on his mattress and
- he was too little to lift his head.
-
- I remember reading a posting in this group that I thought was a good
- suggestion. The poster suggested getting down at baby's-eye-level
- and looking around to see what you can get into that could possibly
- hurt you.
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Susanne Gilliam
- sg@uunet.UUCP@tredysvr.Tredydev.Unisys.COM.UUCP
-
- In my book, by **far** the best latches are the Gerber single piece units
- sold thru the Perfectly Safe catalog (1-800-837-kids). We have 2 children,
- and have lived in 2 different houses, own at least 50 latches of at least 4
- or 5 different manufacturer, and will now only buy the Gerber ones. There
- are two reasons. The first one is that most latches are two pieces, and when
- mounting them, you **must** mount them aligned, or they won't work. Most
- allow some adjustment in one piece, or both, to make it so you don't have to
- mount them perfectly. The problem is that over time, the screws holding the
- pieces loosen the tiniest amount, and let the piece move ever so slightly.
- They are usually designed such that the slip makes it easier to get the
- drawer or cabinet open by simply yanking on it hard enough. Of course, you
- can reposition and retighten the latch, but if your child gets in even
- once, it can be disasterous, dangerous, or just plain annoying, depending
- on what is in the drawer/cabinet.
- The Gerber one piece latches are different (Perfectly Safe carries both
- one and two piece latches by Gerber). They are a strong plastic hook
- sort of shape, with a spring. If you think of an ordinary kitchen
- cabinet, you would mount the piece on the door. When you swing it closed,
- the "hook" catches on the inside of the facing of the cabinet. Due to the
- shape of the hook, it basically closes without problem. But, it won't
- open. To open it, you push down on the latch, against the pressure of
- the spring. There are a few places they won't work, particularly on
- drawers that simply have a flat, solid surface above them (some center
- front desk drawers are like this, among others), but we use them
- everywhere we can. If you can put the latch out of reach (like high on
- a tall kitchen cabinet), that is best.
- Kids differ a lot in how much they will fiddle with your childproofing.
- The "average" child will make a few attempts, then give it up, and they
- quickly learn what is latched and what isn't. Other kids, however, have
- a strong drive to overcome obstacles, and they will drive the childproofing
- methods to their limits. In cases like that, two latches will help.
- Some people use toilet latches to keep the lid down. I used a wait and
- see attitude; since neither of my kids ever showed the slightest
- inclination to mess with them, I haven't used the toilet latches. My
- kids also did not mess with the outlet covers more than a few times each,
- so I use the "standard" ones that simply push in to the outlet. There
- are more sophisticated ones available, but they are more expensive and
- harder for the parent to get at the plug when needed. (By the way, when
- we travel, we always take a long a baggie of outlet caps for whereever
- we spend time -- hotel rooms, Grandmother's house, etc.) If you can
- run electrical cords behind furniture, do so. If you can't, see if you
- can put some of the cord under the furniture itself, to make it so
- a tug on one end of the cord doesn't bring the object tumbling down.
- For example, a table lamp on a living room end table can have the
- cord run under one of the feet for the table. In addition, you can
- get what amount to plastic "C" clamps; they are used for lamps, etc --
- you can use the clamp to hold the cord tight against the edge of
- the table so that the child cannot pull on the rest of the cord, and
- have the item tumble down on them. These are not exactly beautiful,
- but they are very effective for places where there are no other choices.
- Padding edges are another debatable case. In both our houses, we
- have had a fireplace hearth raised 1 brick high, with the sharp edges
- just waiting to dent a baby head. We used a wait and see attitude with
- that too, and never had to do anything. However, you can make your own
- thick padding with an old towel, duct tape, and padding, or you can
- buy a variety of paddings. At some point, every child grows too large
- to waltz under the dining table the way they do at the beginning, but
- I never felt that was worth doing much about -- you watch them, try
- to stop them, and they learn fast.
- Baby gates are an obvious class of stuff that probably needs no
- mention.
- When you start to give the baby baths in a full sized tub, you can get
- "spout guards" to protect the child from bumping into it. You can also
- get things that cover the knob(s) that can prevent a bad burn, should
- the child pull on the faucet (accidentally, or on purpose). And, of
- course, you need a non-skid mat or non-skid stickers on the bottom
- of the tub. No matter how you try, kids always wind up standing in
- the tub.
- There are all manner of specialty things, from latches for 'fridges,
- microwaves, and ovens, to guards for the front of a stove, to VCR
- locks (keeps the child from pushing in fingers, pizzas, blocks, and
- oatmeal). Whether or not you need them depends on your child, yourself,
- and your house. A locking file cabinet can be a great addition to your
- house -- it may not look good, but a metal one can be used to lock up
- cleaners and other dangerous objects.
- I really recommend the Perfectly Safe catalog. You can scan thru the
- catalog and learn a lot.
- Sometimes creativity and a few supplies are all you need. If you have
- a vertical "stack" of drawers with handles, you can run a broomstick
- down thru them; by the time the child can get past it, you may not
- need it anymore. We have a sort of free standing wet bar with sides
- that swing out to reveal a collection of glassware, etc, and my
- daughter **loved** to open it and throw the stuff around. There was
- no obvious way to use a commercial latch of any kind to secure it,
- but it finally occurred to me that I could jam a matchstick in the
- hinge, and she hasn't figured it out yet (she is 19 months).
- And so it goes...a parent's work is never done! Hope all this is
- helpful. If you have any specific questions, let me know, and I'll
- do my best.
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Karen
- uunet!att!druwy!dorato
-
- We have purchased something called a Child Safe for medicines (actually we
- have three - one in each bathroom for medicine, and one in the kitchen for
- knives).
-
- It is a plastic box (~16" x 10" ?) with a hinged door. The latch is on the
- inside; in order to reach the latch to open the door you have to have an
- adult-length finger. The placement of the latch (e.g. the finger length
- required to reach the latch) is adjustable with a simple screwdriver.
-
- This seems much safer to me than the simple cabinet latch. We have those
- too, and so far our 1-yr old has not figured them out, but I'm sure she's
- close.
-
- The Child Safe is available from the Right Start catalog (1-800-548-8531) for
- around $20 or $30 ... I can't remember.
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Gordon Berkley, Motorola Communications Israel Ltd., Tel Aviv
- gordonb@mcil.comm.mot.com
-
- Don't forget bookcases! We can mark Azriel's (1-yr minus 4-days) growth by
- which shelf he insists on emptying. *sigh*
-
- Now if he would only READ them instead if EATING them... :-}
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Mike Fields, The Boeing Co., MMST, Seattle, Wa.
- mikey@shuksan.boeing.com
-
- First, it is important to realize that there is no such thing as
- "child proof" (adult proof yes, but it can't stop a child!). The
- best thing to do is get down on your hands and knees, crawl around the
- house looking for anything you can to hurt yourself with. It's
- amazing the things you can find down at that level!! There are
- a number of books out which cover a lot of this stuff. If you can
- find it, the "Childwise Catalog" is pretty good. As our
- pediatrition told us at our son's 1 year checkup "you have done a good
- job of raising him so far, however, for the second year, your job
- changes. It becomes one of suicide prevention!" He wasn't kidding!!
-
- ----------------------------------------------------
-
- I got the childwise catalog over at walden books, however, it is several years
- old, and many places don't seem to carry it. Try calling the larger book stores
- in your area. One thing we did that has worked well for us - we have a raised
- hearth on our woodstove (brick). I put that polyfoam pipe insulation you can
- get for protecting pipes from freezing over the edges (cut a 90 degree section
- out so it fits the edge. You can glue it on or whatever works for you. It also
- works well on the legs of our 80 gallon aquarium - provides a reasonable amount
- of padding. I built a stereo cabinet in the corner of the living room that
- hinges out on a piece of water pipe. This allows me to have easy access to
- the back and yet when it is closed, little hands can not reach anything!!
- Works great. The other thing I have done for some wires (aquarium etc) is to
- use that white 2 inch PVC pipe used for built in vacs. I run the wires thru
- that with the 90 degree fitting on the end over the outlet. Keeps the busy
- little hands elsewhere (and into other trouble I might add ;-) ). One last
- thing that I did was to drill several holes in the upper track of the sliding
- glass door which go thru the top edge of the door with a 1/4 inch drill. I then
- made a "pin" from a piece of 1/4 inch steel (a bolt would work). By proper
- choice of location, I can pin the door closed (providing additional security),
- 5 inches open (ventilation) or all the way open. This allows you some
- ventilation while at the same time, the little ones can not get their fingers
- crunched in the door!
-
- ----------------------------------------------------
-
- Yesterday (1-6-92) on a local station (KOMO) there was a show called
- "Northwest Afternoon" (60min). They were talking to parents who had
- either lost children due to drowning, poisoning or had had close calls.
- There were some scary things that were brought up I thought I would
- mention for the benifit of the net. One child was essentially a
- vegatable due to baby oil!! When he was 17 mo?, he drank a bottle
- of baby oil (mineral oil). No one was too worried at the time, however,
- within the hour, his breathing became irregular etc. Turns out he
- had apparently coughed and inhaled some into his lungs. By the time
- they got him stable, he was a vegatable due to brain damage - very sad
- to see. The Dr. on the show mentioned the fact that if they eat a
- whole tube of toothpaste, it is possible to get a lethal dose of
- flouride. They also had several people who had lost their children
- on a waterbed, and drowning in a tub with just a few inches of water.
- They stressed the importance of knowing what to do for a choking
- infant (face down on your leg with their head protruding past your
- knee - three sharp slaps with your open hand in the middle of their
- back, then listen for sounds of breathing). One woman had almost lost
- her daughter when she choked on a piece of carrot which lodged in
- her windpipe - the child was ok, but it took surgical measures to
- remove the carrot. Peanuts were mentioned as the worst for kids, since
- if they are inhaled, they will lodge in the lung and breakup. This may
- require removal of part of the lung to get!! They also mentioned
- draino (lye crystals) - if a child eats some, DON'T give them water -
- it activates the stuff!! Call poison control IMMEDIATLY!!!
-
- That is all I can remember (I missed the first 1/2 of the show), but
- it was spooky listening to the people talk about the baby oil etc (they
- sued Johnson and Johnson and only partially won - they got money, but
- J & J would not put a warning on the label which is what they really
- wanted to have to prevent others from the same thing (It was sad - they
- had both boys there - they were twins - the "ok" one was alert,
- interactive and really a nice little boy - the one that got the oil
- obviously had no idea even where he was :-( )
-
- ----------------------------------------------------
-
- Greetings misc.kidders! I just found this little item in rec.woodworking
- where a discussion has been going on about making things for kids/babies.
- The issue it addresses is a key to us all!!
-
-
- > From: bl528@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ken Meinken)
- > Subject: Children's furniture - URGENT!
- > Date: 28 Feb 92 15:21:19 GMT
- > Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
-
- > Recently there have been a number of messages in the newsgroup
- > regarding children's furniture and suggesting that items like
- > toyboxes are more useful, along with a warning about safe design
- > to prevent falling lids from banging fingers, etc.
-
- > There is a MUCH MORE CRITICAL SAFETY ITEM ON TOYBOXES: VENTILATION!!
-
- > I used to be a volunteer EMT. One of my early life squad runs was
- > on a young child (put to bed for a nap) who got out of bed and
- > crawled into the toy box and fell asleep there. He never awoke.
- > Despite our CPR efforts and the hospital's efforts, he could not
- > be revived.
-
- > Although its been 15 years and a thousand other emergency runs have
- > come and gone, I still shudder every time I see an unventilated
- > toy box in a store.
-
- > Ken
-
-
- at our son's 1 year checkup, the Dr. told us that our job had changed- it
- had gone from simply taking care of a baby to suicide prevention! He
- wasn't kidding!!
-
- Hope this helps even 1 child!!
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Linda J Young, AT&T Bell Laboratories
- ljy@uunet.UUCP@mvuxd.att.com.UUCP
-
- Add another story to your list: I recently *watched* my two year
- old daughter open a "child-proof" cap for decongestant medicine.
- I *know* the cap was properly put on, because I tested it before
- she reached up and got it. Incredible....these "child-proof" caps!
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Susan Iwanaga, Univ. of Hawaii
- iwanaga@uunet.UUCP@hubble.IFA.Hawaii.Edu.UUCP
-
- we had a unique babyproofing of our home. one of our friends, who had a
- two year old toddler, volunteered to "lend" us their daughter. the family
- ame to visit and while tanya roamed the house, one of the adults was always
- following her. she would point at unusual things - anything that caught
- her eye. we found a dime, a penny, some spray cans that had been missing
- for a while. i guess that, as we grew older, what was unusual for kids
- became normal for us, so when we went down on all fours to look, we missed
- all that.
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Jim Franklin, Kodak Electronic Printing Systems
- jwf@keps.kodak.com / uunet.uu.net!keps.kodak.com!jwf
-
- We had a very close call with our TV several years ago. The TV and VCR
- are on a very stable TV stand, and I judged that the stand could not be
- overturned by a toddler. This turned out to be a correct judgement, but
- I didn't consider the TV itself.
-
- The TV is a standard 19" color model. So much of the electronics in
- modern TV's is solid state that the picture tube itself is the only
- component with any significant weight. Even though these things are 18"
- deep, the center of gravity is VERY close to the front of the cabinet. If
- you pull down on the top front of a TV, it only takes a small amount of
- force (20 lbs) to topple it forward.
-
- So, I was in the living room doing something when Brian (then ~18mo)
- stepped onto the VCR, grabbed the top of the TV, and tried to climb
- higher. The TV tipped forward, he fell backwards onto the floor, and the
- TV fell 2' and landed flat on his chest and thighs. As I ran over I
- thought he was dead.
-
- In this case we just got lucky -- he wasn't hurt at all, just scared.
- The TV landed flat, so there were no broken bones, not even bruises. And
- it landed on his toddler "beer belly", not his head, which would have
- shattered the picture tube with disastrous consequences.
-
- That night I put eye-bolts in the back of the TV and fastened them to the
- TV stand. Oh. I guess I need to say this for legal/ethical reasons:
- messing with your TV can subject you to lethal electric currents, so don't
- do this unless you know what you are doing.
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Paul Griffiths, Pyramid Technologies, Mt. View, California.
- paulg@pyrhard2.eng.pyramid.com
-
- During the last "big" quake, I found almost all my components toppled
- or fell from their stands, off my computer desk etc. (Read: my house looked
- as if it had been turn upside down) There was quite a bit of damage.
- To prevent anything like this from happening again, I bought a few reels
- of industrial weight velcro and placed it all over my house, mating tv to
- stand, computer to desk etc...
- It hadn't occured to me, until after I read this message, that I
- might also have just childproofed my house, for my daughter, who though still
- very young and not so mobile, manages to generate at least a 7.0, in our
- house. :) I could round up the name of the company that supplies this stuff,
- if you're interested.
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Clare Chu
- clare@uunet.UUCP@nynexst.com.UUCP
-
- I'd like to add something to the FAQ. Beware of loose sheets and thin
- shawls in the crib. My baby managed to wrap one around his neck several
- times while still very young. I think he grabbed an end and turned over.
- Luckily he was okay, but it's a potential danger.
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: David, DavidM's Home Amiga Unix System
- amix.commodore.com!chasm!davidm || chasm!davidm@amix.commodore.com
-
- Watch out for table cloths. To a small child, these look like wonderful
- "handles" for pulling one's self to a standing position. Unfortunately,
- also a very good way to pull all manner of "nasty" objects off the table.
-
- We finally had to remove a little round, decorator table until Brandon
- learned not to pull himself up by the tablecloth.
-
- Oven doors also have the "convenient" handle on them. Brandon scared
- us one night when he pulled open the door to a hot oven. (No injury,
- thankfully!)
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Andrew Daviel
- advax@reg.triumf.ca
-
- First, a bit of background.
-
- In Britain, where I grew up, the household electricity is about 240 Volts.
- The electric outlets are somewhat kid-proofed, in that the live and neutral
- sockets have shutters on them operated by the ground pin, which is longer
- than the others. Some of the plugs on appliances have insulating material on
- the side of the pins, too, so that sliding a metal object behind an inserted
- plug is relatively safe. On the debit side, until recently moulded plugs were
- very rare, and most appliance plugs were fitted to the cord by
- people with little aptitude and inadequate tools.
-
- In Canada, where I am living now, the electicity is 110 Volt (still lethal),
- and the outlets are cheaper, consisting of a round socket for the ground and
- two slots for the live and neutral. The slots are too small for fingers but
- just right for paperclips, knives, etc. The stores sell a wide variety of
- gadgets to kid-proof your outlets. We have dozens of little plastic
- two-legged things that plug into the slots (for places we hardly ever use
- the outlet), clamp-like devices (for places we never take the appliance out,
- like an electric clock), rotating shutters (for places where appliances are
- plugged in frequently, but not for very long, like the vacuum cleaner), and
- lockable boxes that go over the outlet (for places where appliances stay in
- for some time but not continuously, like the computer. And then you can get
- Ground-Fault Interrupter (GFI or ELCB) breakers, which are supposed to trip
- if current goes down the live wire and not all of it came back the neutral
- wire, which we have in the bathroom and outside the house. I have never
- tried one to see if it works (by sticking my finger on a live wire), though
- supposedly it will cut the current before too much happens to you.
-
- Now, what I was going to say:
- We had a sewing machine set up on a table. The cord was secured in the outlet
- with one of the above-mentioned gadgets. Our 14-month old wanders in and
- pulls the cord out of the sewing machine. We were right there and took it
- away from her. Someone else might not be so lucky. There are many appliances
- where the cord has a socket on the end which mates with a plug on the
- appliance (sewing machines, computers and electric kettles spring to mind).
- The holes in the socket are too small for fingers, but it is just possible
- that a toddler might put the end in his/her mouth, and be badly burnt if
- nothing else.
-
- Later I secured the socket permanently to the machine with a Ty-Rap (a tough
- plastic whatsit that electricians use to secure cables, like the police on TV
- use to handcuff people). I think the machine is too heavy for her to pull
- down. I have also seen gadgets to clamp appliance cords to tables.
-
- So, yet another thing to look for when you toddler-proof your home.
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Maureen Busch
- mbb@keps.kodak.com, uucp uunet!munsell!cairo!mbb
-
- The latches that you attach inside the cabinet and cabinet door are
- very popular, and work quite well. Look for the metal ones, they
- hold up better than the plastic ones. Also, if you have cabinets
- that are not solid wood (at the time, we had pressed particle board
- with formica fronts - the simulated wood grain look), they are really
- difficult to install because it is so hard to drill into them even
- with a power drill. Gerber makes a large latch (looks like a safety
- pin or a combination lock) that you can loop through the handles of
- two mated doors - these only work if the handles are fairly close
- together.
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Mona Hatfield, David Taylor Research Center, Bethesda, MD
- 154s@oasys.dt.navy.mil
-
- Try fireplace guards. You'll have to hook them into the wall though, or she'll
- be able to pull them down. I recommend the kind that have the very heavy mesh.
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Judy Boxer, Bitstream, Inc., Cambridge, MA
- judy@bitstream.com
-
- I strongly recommend that anyone with children (and without!) install Ground
- Fault Circuit Interrupter (GFCI) plugs at all outlets in the kitchen, bathroom,
- and outdoors! They will stop the flow of electricity if an appliance touches
- water, and prevent electrocution. They are easy to install (they come with
- directions - but don't do it if you don't know how to turn off the main power
- switch). If you can't do it yourself, it's well worth the money to have a
- handyman or electrician do it for you. These are the plugs you see in new
- homes and hotels that have the test/reset button in the middle. They only cost
- a few dollars and could save your child's life!
-
- Also, if you already have these type of plugs, make sure you test them monthly.
- It's easy: plug something in (nightlight, hair dryer) and press the test button.
- It should stop working. Then press reset - it should start working again.
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Ken Staffan, Eastman Kodak
- staffan@ca.serum.kodak.com
-
- >I strongly recommend that ... install (GFCI) plugs at all outlets in the
- >kitchen, bathroom, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- Actually, you only need one per circuit, installed at the beginning of the
- circuit. All down-stream receptacles will be protected. You can also
- accomplish this with a ground-fault circuit breaker on those circuits (if
- you have breakers). Also, I think the original advice still stands - no
- sense testing a GFCI (Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter) by actually having
- an accident!
-
- ---------------------------------------------------
-
- Those plastic links available in most toy stores - the ones that are approx
- 2" long with a slit in one side for linking in others - make good cabinet
- latches when strung between handles (until the child learns how to undo them).
-
- Long nylon belts - often marketed as luggage straps, etc., in department
- or home improvement stores - work great for strapping shut free-standing
- furniture with doors, such as desks or television and stereo cabinets. The
- buckle can be twisted around to the back to prevent easy access.
-
- Besides temperature-monitoring faucets, etc., hot water burns can be avoided
- by simply turning down the hot water tank thermostat, so that the hottest
- water that can come out of a faucet is not hot enough to burn. (I believe
- that this is an energy saver, as well).
-
- Tall, heavy furniture can topple and crush a child. Open bookcases are
- one of the worst threats, because they can be toppled by a child climbing
- up the shelves. This can be made safer by using hooks & eyes to securely
- anchor the top of the furniture to the wall.
-
- Be conscious about leaving choking hazards laying around, such as open bowls
- of hard candy, loose change, etc.
-
- When taking care of poisons in the kitchen and bathrooms, don't neglect
- the basement and garage - there's no time like the present!
-
- Be aware of crib strangulation hazards: bars too far apart (head can
- be forced through & caught), loose/long bumper fastening straps (child
- can get tangled in straps or caught under bumper), posts or other things
- which can hook clothing near the top of the rails or end pieces (child
- can be strangled by own clothing).
-
- Watch out for furniture or items which can allow a child to climb up on
- to a window sill or above, where the child can put weight on the glass
- and/or fall through.
-
- A couple kitchen things:
-
- It's a good habit to get into to push all hazardous objects to the far
- back of the counter (e.g. when putting down a knife, etc.)
-
- If no other drawers are child-proofed, the knife drawer is a good one. It's
- also a good idea to wash and put away knives as soon as possible after
- using them.
-
- Don't tempt fate. It's not worth the risk of carrying the boiling spaghetti
- water to the sink, even if you think the child is safely out of the path.
- Have someone else pick the child up for a minute, or toss a ball into an
- adjacent room to get them out of harms way long enough.
-
- I didn't see many references to outdoor child-proofing, but I though I
- might throw in a couple comments:
-
- Outside hazards fall into about 3 categories - natural, such as poison
- berries and plants, thorns, well holes, cliffs, water, etc., non-natural,
- such as poisons, hot grills, stacked concrete blocks, flaking paint,
- tons of stuff in the typical garage, etc., and incidental. The natural
- and non-natural are pretty self-explanatory, the incidental, I wanted to
- comment on because I've always been embarrassed about a near accident we
- had. In this category I would put things like not taking children for
- rides on a riding lawn mower, etc. I think it's a fairly good rule to not
- have children around at all when power equipment is being used. Our near
- accident occurred when my wife and I were installing a new front walk and
- stairway (the entrance to the house is on the second level). This involved
- moving a lot of dirt, and we were using a tractor and trailer to haul
- the dirt around. The baby was safely (!) sequestered a good distance
- away, napping in his playpen under a tree. Everything was fine until
- a sheared hitch pin sent a trailer full of dirt down the hill, with enough
- momentum to make it all the way to the playpen. How close? It tore one
- side of the playpen. It took us days to stop shaking, weeks before we
- could talk calmly about it, and the feeling of dismay that it happened
- has never left. I guess the positive thing we can take away from it is
- how hard it is to predict what can happen, and how fast things can happen.
- Now, I would put this in the same category as not tempting fate in the
- kitchen - the child _can't_ be hurt if he/she isn't there!
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Christine, AT&T
- cma@cbnewsm.cb.att.com
-
- Don't know if this is too late or not, but I remember some people
- asking about fireplace hearth corner guards and table corner/coffeetable
- guards. I just got this catalog, "One Step Ahead", that has such items.
- Call them for a catalog at 1-800-950-5120 M-F 8am-8pm CST and
- Saturdays 8am-4pm CST. This is from their 1992 Holiday catalog.
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Dave Fisher, Hughes Aircraft Company
- fisher@lyra.hac.com
-
- Deantha (dam@ouray.denver.colorado.edu) wrote:
-
- : We just acquired a house with an in-ground swimming pool.
- : I need some ideas on how to make it *totally* kid proof.
-
- Nothing short of filling it in will make it totally kid proof.
-
- If you do decide to keep it, here are some ideas:
-
- A pool alarm, which will sound if a child falls in. I understand there
- are a number on the market, but I'm afraid I can't recommend any
- brands. Anybody else?
-
- Another idea is a locking cover; these kind of scare me too, though.
- Kids may think it's fun to get underneath, and I wonder how well they
- lock.
-
- Swimming lessons are a good idea -- keep the gates locked, and make
- sure that by the time your kids are old enough to climb fences they
- are excellent swimmers. Keep any ladders, etc., locked up. Also, keep
- fun looking pool toys locked up or out of sight to avoid temptation.
-
- Also be sure that all the members of the family can swim and learn
- CPR as well.
-
- It sounds like your pool area is kind of a thouroughfare from the garage
- to some part of the yard. If this is so, I would strongly encougage you
- to change this if at all possible. If the pool area is only entered when
- the pool is in use, and preferably only has one entrance, it will be a
- lot easier to make sure it is always locked. A bell, chime, or some
- equivalent on the gate to the pool is also a good idea for those occasions
- when someone leaves it unlocked.
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Cynthia L Macaluso
- macal001@maroon.tc.umn.edu
-
- I just wanted to add a point about household sewing machines. I often
- leave my sewing machine set up in my sewing room. The man who fixes my
- machine told me recently that when he was a child, he "sewed" the needle of
- his mother's sewing machine through the palm of his hand. He recommends
- ALWAYS pulling out the clutch (the turny wheel part on the side that you
- pull out when you want to wind a bobbin and not have the needle go up and
- down)when leaving the machine, even to answer the phone. Unplugging it
- doesn't necessarily work; my kids (2 and 3 yrs) have plugged mine
- in...but they haven't figured out how to push in the clutch yet!
- Without the clutch pushed in they can't make the needle go up and down.
-
- *******************************************************************************
-
- From: Diane T. Willis, Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division
- dwillis@relay.nswc.navy.mil
-
- My husband and I have learned something the hard way. People
- should be really careful of the rubber tips on door stops. I couldn't
- believe Nick crawled all around the house and stripped them off every
- single door stop we have! We also removed the rest of the stop from
- the wall, since to point where the rubber tip goes could injure Nick,
- if he were able to get it out of the wall and run with it. It's a
- terrifying sight to see a small object in your child's mouth, and the
- panic that hits you as you try to remove the object before he/she can
- swallow.
-
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